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Saturday, November 18 2023 - 1:04 PM
By: Neoriceisgood

I now understand.

Oh, hello, looking a bit different.

39406: ALandFarAway - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 1:18 PM

*I* still have faith that Ciel is trustworthy.

39407: TheMegax - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 1:21 PM


39408: Alcemon - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 1:23 PM

My interpretation is that this is the real form of the Pandy spirit behind Noah's power and the Ciel we knew was just the tutorial inspired by the original and as a result of a wish

39409: Otter Claw - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 1:25 PM

Ah Ciel? You looking a little, "Eldritch" there, are you feeling alright?

Joke aside, I wonder if Ciel is being affected by a nightmare here, or maybe going in between a dream and reality has put her in a place of expanded consciousness, as she was already a being just inside of Noah's mind, just a guess.

39410: Dr Morpheus - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 1:34 PM

Completely normal pandemonium spirit stuff going on here folks, carry on

39411: Pyro - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 1:58 PM

Eldridge horrors beyond comprehension

39412: noname - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 2:05 PM

You're looking a little Final Fantasy Boss-y there, Ciel. Have you been eating all your carbs? Consuming all your veggies? Devouring all your souls?

39413: Umbra - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 2:17 PM

well Damn thats a shock

39414: Tom - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 6:26 AM


No no.




39415: -skimmer- - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 2:43 PM

I wonder if Noah accidentally ate Chernyl...

39416: Paintr - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 2:43 PM

Oh Shit!
I only wonder if there was a way to avoid this.

39417: Z2 - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 6:44 AM

I like how 'Pandemonium Spirit Ciel' has a design that can best be described as 'Extremely Eldritch... gossipy teenage girl'.

She emerges with seven mouths that sing across lines of reality to say 'C'mooooon, invade their brainspace, let's learn all their secrets.'

39418: Mohegan - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 3:00 PM

Least it’s not at monstrous as Infinite’s spirit (rip).

39419: Charter - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 3:13 PM

Honestly, kinda cute.

39420: Pyro - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 3:39 PM

Get this man inside a cow ASAP

39421: Robotumus - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 4:10 PM

It's ok Ciel did some mining off screen.

39422: Whim - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 4:17 PM

I was wondering why Ciel looked so normal compared to the other pandemonium spirit. This makes perfect sense!

39423: Luminous Lead - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 4:38 PM

Wh... what do you understand, Ciel?

39424: Fan - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 5:40 PM

...Well now...this has taken a turn!

A turn to what though remains to be seen.

39425: Pheonid - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 10:14 AM

Biblically accurate Ciel

39426: que - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 10:35 AM

love this for her, honestly.

still not explicitly malevolent, either..

39427: Orange - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 10:44 AM

I mean, she did inherit a little cow from the cow, so probably she's inherited a little nightmare now...

39429: Ahiru - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 8:25 PM

So, on the right of large-Ciel, there is the tree from the dream plane Noah just came from, but on the left, there is a lava-looking plane we haven't seen before (IIRC).
Next destination for Noah?

39430: megahellreaper - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 12:32 PM

I'm torn as to whether to attribute this new look of Ciel's to being a pandemonium spirit or to the latest mind Noah's visited being the source of all the nightmares we've seen thus far, considering that the minds have been sort of 'modifying' her on every exit.

39431: lolmao - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 12:54 PM

Well, she did say entering a stronger mind would increase her abilities...

39432: Cellphone - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 9:08 PM

3 things:
1, I'm almost surprised she didn't call him Minori again.
2, Why appear like this now? Was it a deliberate deception before, now discarded? Is it simply a consequence of Noah using his power on such a strong magic user as Chernyl?

39433: ALandFarAway - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 10:19 PM

@Pyro winning comment of the year.

39434: Melany - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 11:33 PM

You know.

Noel has been stating that Ciel is basically just another pandemonium spirit as with everyone else, just one that can communicate with the magic user. Given that Noel has truesight, I wonder if THIS is what he has been seeing the entire time.

39435: Gorzag - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 11:46 PM

@Mohegan: pretty sure Infinite's spirit is well and alive and inhabiting Infinite's corpse. ^^

Now the real question is: where is Chernyl? Did she really escape her dream? Will she be alright if she gets out in the real world while Noah is busy discussing stuff with eldritch Ciel?

(because the previous uses of Noah's power made it quite clear it does not stop/slow time in the outside world)

39436: zet - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 11:58 PM

Chernyl's nightmare may have ended, but Noahs has only just begun...

39437: Taorin - Saturday, November 18 2023 - 11:58 PM

I'm reaaaaaally hoping that Ciel is still "good".

39438: -F- - Sunday, November 19 2023 - 12:38 AM

Since the cow somewhat diminished ciel I imagine this is what happens when going into a way too powerful mind.

39439: The_Squished_Elf - Sunday, November 19 2023 - 1:51 AM


My guess is that that's the Elf guy's on-fire mindscape. Kinda looks like trees in the background.

39440: beep - Sunday, November 19 2023 - 2:50 AM


39441: Guest - Sunday, November 19 2023 - 3:13 AM

Hmmm, by wishing Chernyl's nightmares away, did Noah take on her powers (and burden)?

39442: Belak - Sunday, November 19 2023 - 4:06 AM

Ah, well. No longer getting vibes of Fi from Skyward Sword.

39443: Some guy - Sunday, November 19 2023 - 4:47 AM

Well, whatever she got from Chernyl, fashion sense is not it.

And that body plan looks a bit silly to be honest.

39444: Flairina - Sunday, November 19 2023 - 8:55 AM

Poor Ciel. Six arms, still only two visible hands. Bit of a rip off for her, I'd say.

39445: Eigth - Sunday, November 19 2023 - 10:25 AM

You understand, whatsoever? Great! Please enlighten us! Thank you.

39458: Zyzyzyryxy - Sunday, November 19 2023 - 2:21 PM

Anybody noticed that Up till now Ciel took form of the most scary image she could find in Noah's thoughts? Concidence?

39460: Darius Drake - Sunday, November 19 2023 - 3:58 PM

So this is almost certainly a fully-powered Ciel. Honestly, while she's in this state, Noah's magic is probably strengthened as well. Which probably means his cow-level of power was probably great for training, and terrible for the events he just went through.

@ Orange: What do you mean she inherited from the cow? I checked pages 313, where Ciel was first introduced, and page 1056, a full-body image of Ciel after the visit to the Cow's Mind, and saw nothing notably different. I mean, her sprite was updated between those two times, but it was still obviously of the same person with no notable changes.

@ megahellreaper: The minds have only really affected how much power Ciel has access to upon exit, and potentially Noah as well.

@ Guest: Probably not. We haven't actually seen Noah's Pandemonium Powers do anything, beyond his mind-entry, that wasn't a direct effect onto Ciel. Though one way to get Chernyl's Powers under control IS to link Chernyl to Noah & Ciel to operate as an external flow control.

@ Flairina: Better than having two arms and no visible hands. I think this might be the first time we have seen Ciel's hands, actually.

39461: Panic - Sunday, November 19 2023 - 5:00 PM

I forsee that Ciel and Noah are going to be even more besties-better-than-the-resties from now on. As for her new sartorial, dimensional and seemingly intellectual changes, she's probably still invested in Noah's wellbeing as it relates to her own, but with an addition of some new tactics to convince Noah to let her spread her metaphorical wings. I'm guessing her being through Chernyl's mind and Noah making a wish supercharged her and has put her several levels in power above where she previously was. Maybe other spirits from now on will accord Noah an inordinate amount of respect and/or caution due to him being 'the one who delved Chernyl's mind'? Maybe spirits will try to protect and guide him in a similar manner to Tobi? Maybe the spirits will start shipping him WITH Tobi!?

This is scary and exciting all at once.

39467: Pluriversal - Sunday, November 19 2023 - 9:38 PM

Good point, @Melany
And yeah, @Zyzyzyryxy, I thought the same thing

39510: Nanashi - Tuesday, November 21 2023 - 7:52 AM

that's one hell of a haircut

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